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TL;DR: Iowa contractor Micah Taintor explains why most fence posts don’t need concrete despite popular belief. Concrete creates yard mess, increases frost heave risk (posts can push several inches out of the ground), and makes repairs expensive. Mechanical driving 3-4 feet deep works better for most residential fences, including chain link, wood, vinyl, and ornamental steel fencing. Exceptions: super-tall commercial fences and gate hinge posts benefit from strategic concrete use with proper techniques.
“People often ask, do you set the fence post in concrete?” says Micah Taintor from Thrive Fencing. “And the answer is yes, but not all of them.”
That simple statement challenges what most property owners believe about quality fencing materials and installation methods. Taintor reveals why most fence posts perform better without concrete – and when exceptions make sense for residential or commercial properties.
Why Concrete Fence Installation Creates More Problems Than It Solves
Concrete fence installation involves setting fence posts in concrete footings, typically requiring excavation of 2-3+ foot deep holes that are then filled with concrete mix, either ready-mix or bagged. However, concrete footing fence installation creates a cascade of problems that most contractors won’t mention upfront when installing a fence for your home or business.
The first problem with concrete fence posts is the dirty mess they create in your front, side, or backyard. “It creates a big mess in your yard,” Taintor explains.
“Think of all the dirt that gets displaced has to go somewhere.” Plus, heavy equipment driving across the lawn and accessing every post location damages the grass and landscaping. Even hand-held mechanical augers and hand shovels will leave a mess.
Next, there’s the issue with frost heaves. The Midwest’s climate makes concrete footings particularly problematic. “It increases the risk of frost heave,” Taintor notes. “You may have seen concrete footings that have pushed up out of the ground. Sometimes I’ve seen them as much as six inches out of the ground.”
When frost pushes up footings, consequences multiply quickly. “Your fence becomes dysfunctional. Animals can get underneath it. People get hurt and get caught on it, gates don’t work” he explains.
And let’s think long-term about maintenance. Repair costs jump when posts are set in concrete. “We recently got a call from a customer whose lawn company hit their fence with a mower,” Taintor shares. “We get a fair amount of these calls to come fix fences, and it’s a lot harder, more expensive if the post is in concrete.”
Simple post replacement becomes excavation projects requiring specialized equipment or a ton of elbow grease. What should be quick fixes turn into major expenses. While concrete is a popular choice, it can create long-term maintenance headaches.

Cost-Effective Alternatives to Concrete Footing Fence Systems
A better alternative? Pounding the posts into the ground.
“We pound our posts with a mechanical driver, either a hydraulic one or a gas-powered pounder, 3 to 4 feet in the ground,” Taintor explains. This cost-effective installation method eliminates concrete’s problems while delivering superior performance using traditional materials.
The installation process offers immediate benefits for residential and commercial applications:
- No concrete mixing or curing time
- Minimal soil displacement keeps landscaping intact
- Projects finish faster with less disruption
“That works for chain link, ornamental steel, traditional wood fence, vinyl privacy fencing, and rail fencing systems,” Taintor notes.
This method of installing fence posts is also longer-lasting. “We’ve done these all over and even in big wind, they hold up great.”
And when it comes to long-term maintenance, mechanical driving provides a low maintenance solution that provides security and privacy while offering flexibility that posts set in concrete can’t match. Future repairs stay simple and affordable.

When Concrete Footings Make Sense
“An exception would be if you have a super-tall fence in a windy area like this electric substation that needed a 12-foot-tall fence,” Taintor explains. “Yes, it makes sense to put them in concrete.”
Gate installations represent another strategic application where precast concrete footings offer benefits. “We do like to set the gate hinge posts and maybe both gate posts in concrete,” he notes. “That adds extra stability for common gate problems – kids hanging on them, gates sagging over time, or heavy gates that put stress on the hinges or posts. “If we do need to use concrete, we pay attention to the way a foundation hole is prepared, as it directly affects long-term stability.
For example, the hole should be dug deep enough to sit below the frost line, preventing soil movement from freeze–thaw cycles. Smooth sides are equally important, since irregular soil pockets can create “frost teeth” that push against the structure. In cases where the footing doesn’t go deeper than the frost line, a bell footing at the bottom provides a flared base that spreads the load and anchors the concrete against shifting, tipping, or heaving.
“We’re very careful to dig a hole that’s deep enough, smooth sides, perhaps even has a bell footing bottom to reduce the chance of frost heave,” Taintor explains.
The Smart Choice for Your Property
Many contractors push customers to put every post in concrete, not because it’s structurally required, but because it boosts the price tag or is the way they’ve always done it. Taintor cuts through the noise: “You don’t need to set all the posts in concrete.” This honest assessment separates experienced contractors from those pushing the unnecessary.
Most residential fence installations perform better with mechanical driving. The method delivers superior flexibility, easier repairs, and lower long-term costs while avoiding concrete footing problems.
Ready to explore customizable fencing options for your home or business? Contact Thrive Fencing today for a free estimate and discover why mechanical driving might be the better choice for your specific needs.
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